[build up, VERY DraMaTiCallY, dramatic words and actions]
I have a Mango!
[I regard my mango.]
I peel my Mango.
I bite my Mango
I ChEw my Mango.
I S[uh]WALLOW my Mango.
I digest my Mango.
I poop my Mango.
[DRAMATIC PAUSE] I HAVE A MANGO! [END]
So, I figure once some scouts have heard it 3, 4, 5, 10 times then doing it in another language could be fun and learning opportunity, simple enough sentences, interesting to compare in different languages.
TODO: verify if the translations are ok with native speakers.
As gaeilge:
Tá mango agam! [Breathnaím ar mo mhangó.] Bainim an craiceann de mo mhangó. Bainim greim as mo mhangó. Cognaím mo mhangó. Slogaim mo mhangó. Déanaim díleá ar mo mhangó. Cacaím mo mhangó. [SOS DRAMATA] TÁ MANGO AGAM! [CRÍOCH]
En francaise:
J'ai une mangue ! [J'observe ma mangue.] J'épluche ma mangue. Je mords dans ma mangue. Je mâche ma mangue. J'avale ma mangue. Je digère ma mangue. Je fais caca ma mangue. [PAUSE DRAMATIQUE] J'AI UNE MANGUE ! [FIN]
Nederlands:
Ik heb een mango! [Ik bekijk mijn mango.] Ik schil mijn mango. Ik bijt in mijn mango. Ik kauw op mijn mango. Ik slik mijn mango door. Ik verteer mijn mango. Ik poep mijn mango uit. [DRAMATISCHE PAUZE] IK HEB EEN MANGO! [EINDE]
german:
Dies ist ein „Nachsprechen“-Lied.
Ich habe eine Mango! [Ich betrachte meine Mango.] Ich schäle meine Mango. Ich beiße in meine Mango. Ich kaue meine Mango. Ich schlucke meine Mango hinunter. Ich verdaue meine Mango. Ich scheide meine Mango wieder aus. [DRAMATISCHE PAUSE] ICH HABE EINE MANGO! [ENDE]
spanish:
Tengo un mango. Esta es una «canción» de tipo «repite después de mí». [preparación, de forma MUY dramática] ¡Tengo un mango! [Observo mi mango.] Pelo mi mango. Muerdo mi mango. Mastico mi mango. Trago mi mango. Digiero mi mango. Cago mi mango. [PAUSA DRAMÁTICA] ¡TENGO UN MANGO! [FIN]
portugese:
Eu tenho uma manga. Esta é uma música do tipo “repita depois de mim”. [crescendo, de forma BEM dramática] Eu tenho uma manga! [Observo a minha manga.] Eu descasco a minha manga. Eu mordo a minha manga. Eu mastigo a minha manga. Eu engulo a minha manga. Eu digiro a minha manga. Eu faço cocô da minha manga. [PAUSA DRAMÁTICA] EU TENHO UMA MANGA! [FIM]
Italiano:
Ho un mango. Questa è una canzone del tipo "ripeti dopo di me". [crescendo, in modo MOLTO drammatico] Ho un mango! [Osservo il mio mango.] Sbuccio il mio mango. Mordo il mio mango. Mastico il mio mango. Ingoio il mio mango. Digerisco il mio mango. Faccio la cacca del mio mango. [PAUSA DRAMMATICA] HO UN MANGO! [FINE]
Danish:
Jeg har en mango Dette er en "gentag efter mig"-sang. [opbygning, MEGET dramatisk] Jeg har en mango! [Jeg betragter min mango.] Jeg skræller min mango. Jeg bider i min mango. Jeg tygger min mango. Jeg sluger min mango. Jeg fordøjer min mango. Jeg skider min mango ud. [DRAMATISK PAUSE] JEG HAR EN MANGO! [SLUT]
swedish:
Jag har en mango! [Jag tittar på min mango.] Jag skalar min mango. Jag tar en tugga av min mango. Jag tuggar min mango. Jag sväljer min mango. Jag smälter min mango. Jag bajsar ut min mango igen. [DRAMATISK PAUS] JAG HAR EN MANGO! [SLUT]
norwegian:
Jeg har en mango Dette er en «gjenta etter meg»-sang. [oppbygging, VELDIG dramatisk] Jeg har en mango! [Jeg betrakter mangoen min.] Jeg skreller mangoen min. Jeg biter i mangoen min. Jeg tygger mangoen min. Jeg svelger mangoen min. Jeg fordøyer mangoen min. Jeg bæsjer ut mangoen min. [DRAMATISK PAUSE] JEG HAR EN MANGO! [SLUTT]
czech:
Mám mango. Toto je „písnička“ typu „opakuj po mně“. [gradace, VELMI dramaticky] Mám mango! [Prohlížím si své mango.] Loupu své mango. Zakousnu se do svého manga. Žvýkám své mango. Polknu své mango. Trávím své mango. Vykakám své mango. [DRAMATICKÁ ODMLKA] MÁM MANGO! [KONEC]
Ukrainian:
У мене є манго. Це «пісня» у форматі «повторюй за мною». [нагнітання, ДУЖЕ ДраМаТиЧнО] У мене є манго! [Розглядаю своє манго.] Я чищу своє манго. Я кусаю своє манго. Я жуЮ своє манго. Я ковтаю своє манго. Я перетравлюю своє манго. Я викакую своє манго. [ДРАМАТИЧНА ПАУЗА] У МЕНЕ Є МАНГО! [КІНЕЦЬ]
U mene ye manho!
[Roz.hyladayu svoye manho.] YA chyshchy svoye manho. YA kusayu svoye manho. YA zhuYU svoye manho. YA kovtayu svoye manho. YA peretravlyuyu svoye manho. YA vykakuyu svoye manho.
russian:
У меня есть манго. Это «песенка» в формате «повторяй за мной». [нарастание, ОЧЕНЬ ДрАмАтИчНо] У меня есть манго! [Разглядываю своё манго.] Я чищу своё манго. Я кусаю своё манго. Я жую своё манго. Я глотаю своё манго. Я перевариваю своё манго. Я выкакиваю своё манго. [ДРАМАТИЧЕСКАЯ ПАУЗА] У МЕНЯ ЕСТЬ МАНГО! [КОНЕЦ]
One of the Prague guys described some k8s pod naming fun as malarkey :-)
https://www.etymonline.com/word/malarkey "malarkey(n.), also malarky, "lies and exaggerations, humbug," 1924, American English, of unknown origin. Green's Dictionary of Slang offers an 1894 Australian use of "Captain Mullurky" [sic] as a "melodious name for military muddle, apparently perpetrated for a malicious 'lark.'" It is an authentic Irish surname meaning "servant of Earc." Another slang term meaning much the same thing at about the same time in U.S. was ackamarackus (1934)."
"ThomasDorgan(April 29, 1877 – May 2, 1929) was an Americancartoonist. He is known for his cartoon panelIndoor Sportsand comic stripJudge Rummy, as well as the many English words and expressions he coined or popularized.[1]"
"He was one of at least eleven children[3]– six sons and five daughters – of Thomas J. and Anna Dorgan. [---] Polytechnic High Schoolteachers Rosey Murdoch and Maria Van Vieck recognized and encouraged Tad's talent as an artist. When Dorgan was a child, he lost several fingers of his right hand in an accident whose details are unclear."
"Dorgan is generally credited with either creating or popularizing such words and expressions as "dumbbell" (a stupid person); "for crying out loud" (an exclamation of astonishment); "cat's meow" and "cat's pajamas" (as superlatives); "applesauce" (nonsense); "cheaters" (eyeglasses); "skimmer" (a hat); "hard-boiled" (tough and unsentimental); "drugstore cowboy" (a loafer or ladies' man); "nickel-nurser" (a miser); "as busy as a one-armed paperhanger" (overworked); and "Yes, we have no bananas", which was turned into a popular song."
"Yes! We Have No Bananas" is an American novelty song by Frank Silver and Irving Cohn published March 23, 1923. It became a major hit that year (placing No. 1 for five weeks)[2] when it was recorded by Billy Jones, Billy Murray, Arthur Hall, Snoopy's Classiks on Toys, Irving Kaufman, and others. It was recorded later by " . . .
"The term has been resurrected on many occasions, including during rationing in the United Kingdom in World War II, when the British government banned imports of bananas for five years. "
Hallelujah, Bananas! Oh, bring back my Bonnie to me. I dreamt that I dwelt in marble halls—the kind that you seldom see. I was seeing Nellie home, to an old-fashioned garden: but, Hallelujah, Bananas! Oh, bring back my Bonnie to me![15][16]
SONG: The Gipsy Girl's Dream - I dreamt that I dwelt in marble halls
""I Dreamt I Dwelt in Marble Halls", or "The Gipsy Girl's Dream", is a popular aria from The Bohemian Girl, an 1843 opera by Michael William Balfe, with lyrics by Alfred Bunn. It is sung in the opera by the character Arline, who is in love with Thaddeus, a Polish nobleman and political exile."
I know this song from Enya's version, I did not know the opera origin nor the appearance in Joyce's works.
Lewis Carroll's parody of the lyrics was published in Lays of Mystery, Imagination and Humour in 1855:[3]
I dreamt I dwelt in marble halls, And each damp thing that creeps and crawls went wobble-wobble on the walls...
The opera was made into a 1936 Laurel and Hardy film, The Bohemian Girl, which featured an 18-year old Arline singing the song to her adoptive gypsy father, Oliver.
The Irish singer Enya recorded an ambient, ethereal cover version for her third studio album, Shepherd Moons, released in 1994
"This song from The Bohemian Girl, a popular opera by Michael Balfe, shows up several times in Finnegans Wake. But the opera itself plays an integral part in two of Joyce's short stories in Dubliners."
.. myeh the lyrics are not that funny for contemporary times . .
TODO: lookup more Sigmund Spaeth love that stuff complicated song sing original lyrics of yes, no banana song and gradually re-place each segment with original tune lyric ? Too complicated.
TODO: make a Scout campfire song, using tune of I dreamt I dwelt in marble halls. Linger longer in dream, alot of same lines repeated.
Scout SONG: The Sleepy Scout's Dream to the tune of "I dreamt that I dwelt in marble halls" - by James Coleman 26/5/2026
Translated from the Italian as "Pick me up" - "Tira mi su". Multiple pick me ups due to the sugar, caffeine and alcohol content :) not to mention chocolate(Theobromine).
Edible ingredients:
Strong coffee (~2 bowls made with a heaped spoon (table) of instant coffee)
~80g siucra=sugar (caster|granulated|brown least refined is best)Finger biscuits 2pkts (or Sponge trifle 200g)CocoA powder2 eggs - 2yolks, 1white used
Mascarpone cheese 1pk (200g)
2 spoon bacardi rum (or equivalent)
Tools:
A dish or bowl with sides to hold the finished product, rectangular pyrex dishes are good and a lid is handy.
2 other bowls big enough for beating/mixing.
Spoons or spatulas(silicone ideally)
Kettle to boil water and instant coffee or coffee maker.
A fork and a strong arm OR a mixing tool.
Method:
1. Mix siucra and 2 yolks.
Beat really hard + for long time until it goes a light colour.
Your arm should be falling off now, don't worry >;) there's more
beating to come.
Add mascarpone and bacardi and mix in.
The small amount of liquid should help make sure all the grains of sugar break down.
2. Beat egg-white hard until quite stiff.
Stiff peaks form.
3. Mix 1 & 2 gently together to give you some nice creamy gunk.
N.B. fold gently together, do NOT beat.
4. Make black coffee.
ASSEMBLEY ASCII diagram:
|_________________________| -sprinkling of cocoa on top
|CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC|
|CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC| -layer of creamy gunk
|BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB|
|BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB| -layer of coffee-soaked biscuits
|CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC|
|CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC|
|BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB|
|BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB|
+-------------------------+
5. Soak each biscuit in the coffee before layering in bottom of dish.
If you're using the sponge cake (tsk tsk) you'd better skip this pre-soak, you don't
really want it to disintegrate before it gets to the intended bowl.
6. When you have the layer done use more coffee to soak biscuits/cake thoroughly
- they should be squishy to touch but not soaking wet.
Now cover this layer with about half the creamy gunk and smooth it out.
7. Add another layer of soaked biscuits and another layer of creamy gunk.
8. Leave in the fridge to soak and firm up.
9. Sprinkle the top with the cocoa.
Enjoy.
Credit for this excellent dish must go to Lucia Gualteri and the Italian nation in general.
Italians are very precise cooks. Surprisingly, instant coffee is approved ok to use in this dish as long as it's strong. The brown sugar has not been officially approved, just make sure people taste it
I also learned how to cook brocolli with garlic and pasta from Lucia and this in Milenese dialect:
Ehi tu! Tachet i tac a ti. Hey you! You fix my shoe.
Io!? Tachet i tac a ti ? Me!? Fix your shoe ?
Che te tachet i tac a ti !? Why I fix your shoe !?
Tachet i ti i to tac. Fix your own shoe yourself.
In 1998 a few friends made a "dspsrv cookbook" and this recipe originally appeared in the #bake section (t)here:
No! put me down! roughly translated from the Italian as "Pick me up" - "Tira mi su" due to the caffeine and alcohol content :) Full credit for this excellent dish must go to Lucia and the Italian nation in general - James
Ingredients
Strong coffee (~2 bowls made with a heaped spoon (table) of coffee)
~80g siucra (that'd be sugar)
Finger biscuits/Sponge trifle 200g, 2pkts
Cocoa powder
2 eggs - 2yolks, 1white used
Mascarpone cheese 1pk
2 spoon bacardi rum
Method
Mix siucra and 2 yolks. Beat really hard + for long time until it goes a light colour. Your arm should be falling off now, don't worry >;) there's more beating to come. Add mascarpone and bacardi and mix in.
Beat egg-white hard (again! :( ) until stiff. Have fun persuading your fork to stand up! - If it doesn't say 'ahhh - this forks too thin' and give up :).
Mix above mixtures together to give you some creamy gunk. N.B. fold gently together, do NOT beat.
Mix big spoon of coffee with a bowl of boiling water. Don't SCALD yourself! We don't want any dead flesh in this dish, it's meant to be Vegetarian remember! (not that I can see anything vegtablike about coffee, cake, cheese, eggs, sugar or bacardi!)
Soak each biscuit in the coffee before layering in bottom of dish. Again: don't scald! Only a silly person :) would also dunk their fingers into the boiling coffee! :O if you're using the cake you'd better skip this pre-soak, you don't really want it to disintegrate before it gets to the intended bowl.
When you have a layer use more coffee to soak biscuits/cake thoroughly - they should be squishy to touch (ugh!). Now cover this layer with about half the creamy gunk and smooth it out.
After another layer of soaked biscuits and cream leave in the fridge to recover a while. Sprinkle with the cocoa sometime.
Force yourself and some hapless friends to eat the horrible stuff! :)
The compulsory ASCII garfic diagram:
|___________________| -sprinkling of coco on top |CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC| |CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC| -layer of creamy gunk |BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB| |BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB| -layer of coffee-soaked biscuits |CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC| |CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC| |BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB| |BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB| +-------------------+
Underneath of Tiramisu
Tiramisu - 2020 style
No! put me down! roughly translated from the Italian as "Pick me up" - "Tira mi su" due to the caffeine and alcohol content :) Now that we're accessable by lots of people (not that we're gonna be) full credit for this excellent dish must go to Lucia and the Italian nation in general.
Before this little bit of paper disintegrates :-
Edible ingredients:
Strong coffee (~2 bowls made with a heaped spoon (table) of coffee)
~80g siucraFinger biscuits/Sponge trifle 200g, 2pkts
CocoA powder2 eggs - 2yolks, 1white used
Mascarpone cheese 1pk
2 spoon bacardi rum (not too much Paul!)
Tools:
A bowl to hold the finished product - say roughly dish size but it
needs sides to hold the floppy stuff in!
Various other bowls, spoons & forks, kettle to boil water 'n stuff.
An arm like a WWF SuperWrestler or Lucia.
The compulsory ASCII barfic diagram:
|_________________________| -sprinkling of coco on top
|CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC|
|CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC| -layer of creamy gunk
|BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB|
|BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB| -layer of coffee-soaked biscuits
|CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC|
|CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC|
|BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB|
|BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB|
+-------------------------+
1. Mix siucra and 2 yolks.
Beat really hard + for long time until it goes a light colour.
Your arm should be falling off now, don't worry >;) there's more
beating to come.
Add mascarpone and bacardi and mix in.
2. Beat egg-white hard (again! :( ) until stiff.
Have fun persuading your fork to stand up! - If it doesn't
say 'ahhh - this forks too thin' and give up :).
3. Mix 1 & 2 together to give you some creamy gunk.
N.B. fold gently together, do NOT beat.
4. Mix big spoon of coffee with a bowl of boiling water.
Don't SCALD yourself! We don't want any dead flesh in this dish,
it's meant to be Vegetarian remember! (not that I can see anything
vegtablike about coffee, cake, cheese, eggs, sugar or bacardi!)
5. Soak each biscuit in the coffee before layering in bottom of dish.
Again: don't scald! Only a silly person :) like, say, Lucia would
also dunk her fingers into the boiling coffee! :O
If you're using the cake you'd better skip this pre-soak, you don't
really want it to disintegrate before it gets to the intended bowl.
6. When you have a layer use more coffee to soak biscuits/cake thoroughly
- they should be squishy to touch (ugh!).
Now cover this layer with about half the creamy gunk and smooth it out.
7. After another layer of soaked biscuits and cream leave in the fridge to
recover a while. Sprinkle with the cocoa sometime.
8. Force yourself and some hapless friends to eat the horrible stuff! :)
Ingredients, beating eggs
The DSPs shared some recipies and made a cookbook.
Originally from "Nan Nestor". It has since been modified and taken on a distinctly Coleman character. Thanks to Mum for the good tips on "The Science of making Sponge". Basically (I'll get my notes later) - James
Ingredients
6 eggs
6oz caster sugar
6oz flour & cocoa/coco mix
75/100ml water (recommendation from Brenda Costigan's book)
Turn on the damn oven. 180 degrees. (I keep on forgetting to do this at this stage.)
Separate the yolks from the whites.
Mix the yolks, sugar, flour & cocoa and water and beat (with a whisk). Really beat the ____ out of it. Get it nice and creamy. When you rub a finger in it and it holds the streak for just a second you're done. (thanks Mum)
Now beat up the egg whites until they're stiff. Fold the eggwhites gently into the other mix and transfer to the baking trays. Into the oven rapido super quick but treat the sponge gently.
Be paranoid and don't open the oven too soon. Don't BANG the oven door - the sponge doesn't like it.
It could be done in 20 minutes, but for 6:6:6 IN TWO BREAD-LOAF TINS it took 35/40 minutes to bake. Less time if the sponge is split into smaller/flatter cakes.
Slice a knife into the sponge. If it comes out clean it's done.
Assembly of Black Forest Gateau:
Seed the grapes and stone the cherries. Mmmmm. Lick each one. (just kidding!) Nice juice :-P''''
Chop the sponge in three thin slices.
Lay the bottom slice on the tray the cake will be served on. This tray is best flat, without edges. (edges interfere with slicing and attachment of grated chocolate).
Pour juice and kirsch/red jamacian rum/bacardi on the sponge. I like to get it really moist ... but this makes sure the slices will never be able to stand up by themselves.
Lay out grapes/cherries on top of the sponge.
Spread a thin layer of cream on top to help the next layer stick.
Lay the next layer of sponge on top of this, soak with juice, pile with grapes and spread with cream as before.
Repeat again but don't put any cream right on the top. If you want to be really fancy heat some juice and thicken it with some cornflour or arrowroot. Pour this syrup on top to make the cherries really Shiny.
Please note I disclaim all responsability for how any these diagrams display on your browser - BPC.
The compulsory ASCII barfic diagram:
____________________________ -syrup on top for shine (usually omitted) cCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCc -layer of cherries only (grapes okay too) cCSSJSSJSJSSJSSJSSJSSJSSJSCc cCSSJSSJSJSSJSSJSSJSSJSSJSCc cCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCc -layer of cream cCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCc -layer of grapes/cherries cCSSJSSJSJSSJSSJSSJSSJSSJSCc -layer of juice/rum-soaked sponge cCSSJSSJSJSSJSSJSSJSSJSSJSCc cCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCc cCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCc cCSSJSSJSJSSJSSJSSJSSJSSJSCc cCSSJSSJSJSSJSSJSSJSSJSSJSCc -------------------------------------------
Cream (C) is slathered around the outside.
Grated chocolate (c) is stuck to that all around the edge.
Note
Self raising flour (or flour + baking powder) used mix about 2/3 flour and 1/3 cocoa. Coco makes a the sponge a bit pale but as it's hidden by cream & grape and doused in juice & rum/kirsch/whatever it hardly makes a difference. If using electric whisk much more air is incorporated so they say use normal flour.
Interesting to note the 1egg:1oz ratio. the 6:6:6 is for two bread-loaf sized cakes. Which makes a good amount of gateau - enough for 10/a few more people. The ratio is varied according to cake made and quantity desired. Cooking time will of course then vary ... depending on amount of sponge and size of container.
Words of today are nixer and nix, brought to you by the letters N and X , unrelated to knack or nack or knackered (except, perhaps in an onomatopaeic, no, alliterative ? way).
https://www.etymonline.com/word/nixnixer is an Irish slang term for a casual,, often "off-the-books" or part-time, job, .. The term originates from " nix " (meaning "nothing" or "no") .. implying work done for cash with no tax or insurance declared. Origin: The term is derived from "nix," which stems from the German nichts or colloquial nix (meaning nothing).
https://www.etymonline.com/word/knackknack "a deception, trick, device," a word of uncertain origin. .. "a sharp sounding blow" .. knak, .. German knacken "to crack;" also knap) .. Sense of "special skill" .. is first recorded 1580s. In old slang (mid-18c. to mid-19c.) nacky meant "full of knacks; ingenious, dexterous."
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=knackeredknackered "worn out, tired," .. knacker/nacker "harness-maker" (1570s) .. Old Norse hnakkur "saddle," related to hnakki "back of the neck,"
[15:33, 04/02/2026] James Coleman: 😀 possibly sign of light headedness just cycled back up the road after donating a pint of blood
nix sounds latin, doesn't it ? .. nix means snow in latin
Brought to you by the surprising gap in knowledge of someone on family whatsapp group (not knowing what a nixer is).
Cheat: we know this should contain a 120 char message, 120 same e-grave chars.
e-grave char encoding in GSM is 4.
so we think in this string we have 120 chars value 4 repeated
and we think each char is using 7bits
Note, Wireshark .. unfortunately this was not SCTP encapsulated but TCP/IP encapsulated. I had an older wireshark with a change in decoding plugins hand built that could decode SS7, but, on an old machine now :-(. See below found an online docoder that worked BUT it doesn't explain how it is done.
Gemini .. gave some good pointers on decoding and referenced the right specs but this was a hard task for it and it was hallucinating and making up[ decodings more often than giving good info.
ETSI 3GPP standards 3GPP TS 23.040 and 3GPP TS 23.038
We can decode the PDU with info in these 2 standards.
SM-RP-UI AVP:3301 6.3.3.3 OctetString M, V No 6.3.3.3 SM-RP-UI The SM-RP-UI is of type OctetString and it shall contain a short message transfer protocol data unit (TPDU) which is defined in 3GPP TS 23.040 [3] and represents the user data field carried by the short message service relay sub-layer protocol. Its maximum length is of 200 octets.
9.2.2.1 SMS‑DELIVER type Basic elements of the SMS‑DELIVER type:
..
TP‑DCS TP‑Data‑Coding‑Scheme M o
Parameter identifying the coding scheme within the TP‑User‑Data.
..
TP‑UDL TP‑User‑Data‑Length M I Parameter indicating the length of the TP‑User‑Data field to follow.
TP‑UD TP‑User‑Data O 3)
1) Provision; Mandatory (M) or Optional (O). 2) Representation; Integer (I), bit (b), 2 bits (2b), Octet (o), 7 octets (7o), 2‑12 octets (2‑12o). 3) Dependent on the TP‑DCS.
9.2.3 Definition of the TPDU parameters 9.2.3.1 TP‑Message‑Type‑Indicator (TP‑MTI)
0x78= 120 decimal, 120 septets in sequence == TP‑User‑Data‑Length (TP‑UDL)
TP‑User‑Data‑Length (TP‑UDL) If the TP‑User‑Data is coded using the GSM 7 bit default alphabet, the TP‑User‑Data‑Length field gives an integer representation of the number of septets within the TP‑User‑Data field to follow.
9.1.2.4 Alphanumeric representation A field which uses alphanumeric representation shall consist of a number of 7‑bit characters represented as the default alphabet defined in 3GPP TS 23.038 [9].
AND, in 3GPP TS 23.038 we can find how septets are packed into bytes:
6.1.2 Character packing 6.1.2.1 SMS Packing 6.1.2.1.1 Packing of 7-bit characters
e.g.eight characters in seven octets:
- bits number:
7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
2g1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 1g
3f 3g2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
4e 4f 4g3a 3b 3c 3d 3e
5d 5e 5f 5g4a 4b 4c 4d
6c 6d 6e 6f 6g5a 5b 5c
7b 7c 7d 7e 7f 7g6a 6b
8a 8b 8c 8d 8e 8f 8g7a
SO, TP-UD encoding IS NOT ASN.1, it's defined in 3GPP TS 23.040, it depends on the DCS
No, the TP-UD (Transfer Protocol - User Data) field, which contains the actual text of the SMS, is not defined using ASN.1 (Abstract Syntax Notation One).
The TP-UD field is defined directly within the constraints of the SMS-TPDU (3GPP TS 23.040) and its contents are governed by the Data Coding Scheme (TP-DCS).
How the TP-UD is Defined and Encoded
The TP-UD is simply a sequence of bytes. Its structure and meaning are dictated entirely by the preceding fields in the SMS-TPDU:
1. TP-UDL (User Data Length)
The TP-UDL field specifies the length of the TP-UD field.1
If the message uses GSM 7-bit encoding (the default alphabet), the length is measured in 7-bit characters. The length is then packed into the minimum number of bytes required (e.g., 140 characters fit into 160 bytes).
If the message uses UCS-2/UTF-16 encoding, the length is measured in bytes.
2. TP-DCS (Data Coding Scheme)
The TP-DCS is the single most important field for decoding the TP-UD. This byte specifies the alphabet used:
TP-DCS Value
Encoding Standard
Max Characters (Single Segment)
0x00 - 0x03
GSM 7-bit Default Alphabet
160 characters
0x08
UCS-2 (UTF-16)
70 characters (since each character takes two bytes)
0x04
8-bit Data
140 bytes
The TP-UD is simply the raw byte stream of the text, encoded according to the rule set by the TP-DCS.
Contrast with MAP/TCAP (The ASN.1 Layers)
The reason for the confusion is that the protocols surrounding the SMS-TPDU are defined using ASN.1:
TCAP (Transaction Capabilities Application Part): The TCAP dialogue and components are defined entirely in ASN.1.2
MAP (Mobile Application Part): MAP operations (like mo-ForwardSM) and their parameters are defined using ASN.1.
The SMS-TPDU itself is often wrapped in a MAP Parameter:3The entire SMS-TPDU (including the TP-UD) is usually embedded inside a MAP ASN.1 construct as an OCTET STRING parameter. The ASN.1 defines thecontainerbut not the internalcontentof the TP-UD field itself.
This ONLINE Decoder worked:but doesn't breakdown the decode so you cannot rely on it for testing
If the TP‑User‑Data is coded using compressed GSM 7 bit default alphabet or compressed 8 bit data or compressed UCS2 [24] data, the TP‑User‑Data‑Length field gives an integer representation of the number of octets after compression within the TP‑User‑Data field to follow. YEOW
It's not compressed though.
gsm_map_with_PasteSS7egrave5.pcap
# this did not quite work out! :-(
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X\0\0\0\06\0\0�\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0�\0\0у(b! \0 �\0r(\0 \0r(`Ale��H�I� +l�����,0���0��00| �\0\0\0\0\0\0RpqA@x�@ �@ �@ �@ �@ �@ �@ �@ �@ �@ �@ �@ �@ �@ �@ \0\0 pad with \0\0 ? 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Wiresharkhttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/id/draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-00.html I _think_ total bytes including wireshark file head = 321 bytes file header 24 octets and packet record 16 octets (including 2 4octet packet lengths) timestamps ��\0\0�� \0 packet lengths �\0\0\0 �\0\0\0 OR �\0\0\0 �\0\0\0 .. NEED TO INCREASE �\0\0\0 = 218, change to 281 = 256 + 25 = \0\0 I think try more ? 282 ? try more again 283? ? 0x1b 0x01 I _think_ total bytes excluding wireshark file + packet heads = 281 bytes Ethernet \0 IP4 E\0�4\0\0���t including tot length in 3rd 4th octets � OR OR .. 01cc == total length 460 it says IPv4 tot length exceeds packet length (204 bytes THEN 267 bytes) so change to 256+11 = + CTRL-I a TAB I think ? no, not ctrl-I ctrl-K IPV4 length is the length from the 45(=E) to the end. 256+12 = and increase by 1 again 256+13 = SCTP X X\0\0\0\06\0\0�\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0 sport 2904 X dport 2904 X vtag:\0\0\0\0 cksum:6 DATA CHUNK ctype:\0(data) cflag:(3) clen:\0� = 172 NEED TO INCREASE THIS \0œ ?? chunk length œž ?? clen:\0� = 00ac it says payload length: 156 chunk len 00ac=172 \254 octal = 10101100 = 0xac yep duh = 172 172+60 about right 232 = 0xe9 ? = 11101001 = \351
emacs how insert C−q→Type ∖x1b→RET oh right \xe9 \xe9 _\xe9 C-q
(quoted-insert) command. C-q 033 C-q 0351 é HAH ironic it
inserted 2 bytes, utf8 e-grave c3a9 235 = 0xec echo "e9 ec" |xxd -r -p -g1 >> ~/Downloads/gsm_map_with_PasteSS7egrave4.pcap 189=������ � - 0xea try � = 0xeb e9 - 4 gives us e5 ? too short by lots by 6 ? e9+2=eb � e9 to ea ������ MTP2\0\0\0�\0\0� 01 version, 00reserved, 06class, 01DATA, of which 0000009c=message length 156, 0300=param protocol data 1 0092=param len 146 NEED to increase +40 ? +60 ? yep 9c to 0xda and 92 to 0xd0 or thereabouts cf to d3 are: � d0 ���� d4 to df are: ������ da ������ tried d0 and da � � .. TRY d3 and dd � � ���������������������������������� echo "c2cc c3cd c4ce c5cf c6d0 c7d1 c8d2 c9d3 cad4 cbd5 ccd6 cdd7 ced8 cfd9 d0da d1db d2dc" |xxd -r -p -g1 >> ~/Downloads/gsm_map_with_PasteSS7egrave4.pcap TRIED DB D1 �\0\0у(b SUBTRACT 2 try d9cf \331\317 �� BAHH OK the 9c includes from start of MTP2 count 94hex to end packet BAHH OK the 92 includes 2bytes for itself count 90hex to end of packet d3 to end of packet => use d3+8 = db cf to end of packet => use cf+2 = d1 doublecheck 92+a=9c d1+a=db dbd1 is �� MAYBE add 1 dcd2 is �� maybe sub 1, sub 2 dad0 �� d9cf ��
MTP3�(b! MTP3�(b! MTP3�(b! SCCP - there are 3 pointers to CdPa CgPa and ? WHAT is that 0x6c just before tcap part pasted in 0x65etcetc ? wireshark highlights as if it is a length ? CHANGE IT TO AC ??? SCCP \0 �\0r(\0 \0r(`Ale��H 3 POINTERS: CdPa: �\0r(\0 CgPa: \0r(`A HUH: l.... 0x6c = l might be length .. ac is � I think .. 10101100 YEP need another 2 ? ae \256 needed � MAYBE NOT
TCAP 65 81 aa .. otid dtid components:1 item == GSM MAP 01 01 2c opcode 44 81? 8f ? DA 80 06 013011111111 OA 04 07 91020130101030 0x04 0x7c after OA .. 0x7c maybe is length of PDU. We get contained item exceeds length of containing item error message
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