Friday 4 April 2008

etymology of jargon

etymologically interesting

Anything self-referential is amusing (blame/praise starts with GEB - how can one describe systems purely if you have any use/reference of anything in that system in the description of the system - HAHAHAH!) like a joke or pun. Etymology of words about language, jargon: old french jargon garrire bird-chatter gargle. from http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=jargon

http://catb.org/jargon/html/introduction.html
http://catb.org/jargon/html/distinctions.html
"communication, and of inclusion, and of exclusion."
And for hacker jargon as a technical language there is a complex level of detail which does seperate it from being just a plainer slang. Not easy to learn/understand unless you learn the whole culture (shared consciousness), descriptive of complex/different ideas/models/thinking... which is very useful and important for facilitation of communication, quite like a real language.

Oh yeah! so elitist :) too.

"we have attempted to ensure that everyone's sacred cows get gored, impartially. Compromise is not particularly a hackish virtue, but the honest presentation of divergent viewpoints is."

This digression started with http://www.faqs.org/docs/jargon/H/hexadecimal.html
"correct term for base 10, for example, is ‘denary’"


~"etymologically pure"~ real live language decimal style words "too racy and amusing for stuffy IBM", (incorrect and inconsistent anyway! :))
2 binary binary
3 ternary or trinary ternary
8 octonary octal octaval
10 denary decimal decimal
16 sendenary hexadecimal sedecimal sexadecimal


Numerical Prefixes: http://phrontistery.info/numbers.html
numerical words in English (possibly common to many languages via maths ?) (mainly from greek and latin )
see Table 1: Latin-Prefixed Numerical Words
see Table 3: Latin Numerical Words: 13 to 1000

Numbers from 1 to 10 in over 5000 languages: http://zompist.com/numbers.htm

Arabic wāhid iŧnān ŧalāŧah 'arba`ah xamsah sittah sab`ah ŧamāniyyah tis`ah `ašarah
Cantonese jat i sam sei ŋ lok tshat pat kau sap
Dutch een twee drie vier vijf zes zeven acht negen tien
English one two three four five six seven eight nine ten
French un deux trois quatre cinq six sept huit neuf dix
German eins zwei drei vier fünf sechs sieben acht neun zehn
Greek éna đío tría téssera pénde éksi eftá oxtó ennéa đéka
Hindi/Urdu ek do tīn cār pā~c chai sāt āth nau das
Irish aon dó trí ceathair cúig sé seacht ocht naoi deich
Italian uno due tre quattro cinque sei sette otto nove dieci
Japanese ichi ni san shi go roku shichi hachi ku juu
Mandarin(Beijing) yi er san si=sz wu liu qi ba jiu shi
Polish jeden dwa trzy cztery pięć sześć siedem osiem dziewięć dziesięć
Runic+ æinn tvæiR þrīR fiūriR fæ:m sæx siū ātta nīu tīu
Russian odín dva tri četýre pyat' šest' sem' vósem' dévyat' désyat'
Spanish uno dos tres cuatro cinco seis siete ocho nueve diez




Heh heh :) warhammer again in comics:
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080403
http://www.weregeek.com/2008/03/03/

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