Friday 4 April 2014

Data for Cub Scout Hike from Larch Hill to Hellfire and back via Cruagh wood.

Some data for the Larch Hill to Hellfire route . . .

SUMMARY route options:
1. Larch Hill to Hellfire 4.5km (and back 4.5km)  (total 4km on road and 5km on paths)
2. Larch Hill to Hellfire 5.8km (and back 4.5km)
3. Larch Hill to Hellfire 4.5km and back via Cruagh wood and Tibradden 8km
    (total 4km on road - quieter road on way back but watch for cars/bikes)
   The route via Cruagh wood follows a nice forest/river walk in Massey wood up to Cruagh.

1. and 2. breakdown.
Larch Hill to Hellfire 4.5km (or 5.8km on less steep path up Montpelier)
Road 2.7km, 1km through Massey wood, 0.8km up the hill to Hellfire (or 2.1km wind up the less steep paths)
On the way back simply reverse that route.
Road: 
* Down the Larch Hill road and out main entrance, 
* Continue straight down hill (all the way down Mutton Lane).
  Careful! Narrow roads with traffic!
* Continue straight up to hairpin bend. Total: 1.6km
* Take left at hairpin up Cruagh road.
* Take 2nd right (after 0.5km towards fruit farm) up Cruagh lane.
  Road should be less busy now but watch for traffic/farm.
* Take first right (after 0.3km) up Lamberts lane.
* Near end of lane (after 0.3km) find entrance to Massey woods.
Massey wood:
* Go 1km West(ish) uphill direction on Military Road in Massey wood up to entrance near Hellfire.
* Travel 200m SW up road and turn right into Hellfire car park
  (WATCH out for traffic - the road and car park can be vbery busy)
* EITHER follow the forest tracks up the hill and around back of hill up to peak
* OR turn left immediately after entering car park.
  Follow path directly towards peak.
  When this path crosses forest track you can decide to continue up steeper section or at that point join forest track.

3. Larch Hill to Hellfire 4.5km and back to Larch Hill via Cruagh/Tibradden 8km (total:12.5km)
Go through Massey woods following river walk all way South.
Cross road to Cruagh woods.
Go East through Cruagh wood and cross road to Tibradden wood (at car park entrance).
At Tibradden follow Pine forest track across to Tibradden Lane road, 
Follow road downhill (North) and around to Larch hill main entrance.

Distances:
Down Hellfire to Massey wood river walk 1.5km
Path through in Massey woods follow river path S to Cruagh 1.7km
E across Cruagh woods 1.7km
Back through Tibradden and on road to Larch hill (route we have done a few times previously) 3.1km

Pace/time:
On the last hike up 3 rock I did a rough pace calc and allowed a bit extra for small legs . . . 
We blew that out of the water & had plenty extra time at the top! :-)
The Three Rock hike loop from Balally Scout Den was 11km total. 10am to 2:30pm
The Three rock route we did total distance of 11km: 4.4km up and down and a few km around the top
We did a steady pace at start and didn't slack off despite steep section on Three Rock.

We should allow contingency but Naismiths rule unadjusted seems to be correct for cub hike speed.
Naismith 1hr/5k+1hr/600m 
The 12.5km route works out at 3hours. (no lunch/play time included)

Going direct up steep hill at Hellfire I think could be good as it will keep the interest even though it is a bit difficult.
Provided any old knees can handle it! :)
We should set a steady but slow pace on that section.
We can see on the day how the going is under foot and what time we are making.

I'm familiar with all the paths except the roads to back entrance of Massey wood and the top bit at South of Massey woods to Cruagh so I'm going to scout them out of an evening or on Sat . . . 

lovely mappy number things follow . . . 

James.


The UK & Ireland route planner here did a good job for the walking route: http://www.routino.org

Larch Hill to Hellfire and back via Cruagh route:
http://www.routino.org/uk-openlayers/router.html?transport=foot;lon1=-6.28399;lat1=53.25403;lon2=-6.33018;lat2=53.25147;lon3=-6.31487;lat3=53.24873;lon4=-6.30994;lat4=53.24115;lon5=-6.29481;lat5=53.24286;lon6=-6.28399;lat6=53.25403;lat=53.25414;lon=-6.30883;zoom=14
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#Latitude Longitude Section  Section  Total    Total    Point Turn Bearing Highway
#                   Distance Duration Distance Duration Type                      
 53.254024   -6.284129  0.000 km  0.0 min   0.0 km    0 min Waypt   -4 Larch Hill
 53.252012   -6.330374  0.124 km  1.9 min   4.5 km   68 min Waypt  -3  +2 DMW(Hellfire Club on top of Montpelier Hill)
 53.248754   -6.314912  0.391 km  5.9 min   6.0 km   90 min Waypt  +4  -3 DMW(bottom of Massey woods)
 53.241202   -6.309843  0.015 km  0.2 min   7.7 km  116 min Waypt  -3  +3 track(Cruagh woods)
 53.242818   -6.294789  0.015 km  0.2 min   9.4 km  141 min Waypt  +1  +1 path(Tibradden woods car park)
 53.254024   -6.284129  0.439 km  6.6 min  12.5 km  187 min Waypt   





Hellfire hill route on windy road up and steep hill down:
http://www.routino.org/uk-openlayers/router.html?transport=foot;lon1=-6.32133;lat1=53.25218;lon2=-6.32341;lat2=53.25427;lon3=-6.32632;lat3=53.25008;lon4=-6.33341;lat4=53.25139;lon5=-6.33003;lat5=53.25159;lon6=-6.32133;lat6=53.25218;lat=53.25414;lon=-6.30883;zoom=14
Three rock route from Balally scout Den: 4.4km up, +2.6=7km to around the top and heading down, +4=11km back to den

full list for the route from Larch hill:
http://www.routino.org/uk-openlayers/router.html?transport=foot;lon1=-6.28399;lat1=53.25403;lon2=-6.33018;lat2=53.25147;lon3=-6.31487;lat3=53.24873;lon4=-6.30994;lat4=53.24115;lon5=-6.29481;lat5=53.24286;lon6=-6.28399;lat6=53.25403;lat=53.25414;lon=-6.30883;zoom=14
# Creator : Routino - http://www.routino.org/
# Source : Based on OpenStreetMap data from http://www.openstreetmap.org/
# License : http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright
#
#Latitude Longitude Section  Section  Total    Total    Point Turn Bearing Highway
#                   Distance Duration Distance Duration Type                      
 53.254024   -6.284129  0.000 km  0.0 min   0.0 km    0 min Waypt   -4 Larch Hill
 53.253710   -6.284103  0.034 km  0.5 min   0.0 km    1 min Junct  +0  -4 Larch Hill
 53.253599   -6.284043  0.012 km  0.2 min   0.0 km    1 min Junct  +2  -3 Larch Hill
 53.253317   -6.284087  0.042 km  0.6 min   0.1 km    1 min Junct  +2  -3 service road
 53.252756   -6.285793  0.149 km  2.2 min   0.2 km    4 min Junct  +0  -1 Larch Hill
 53.255290   -6.289248  0.375 km  5.6 min   0.6 km    9 min Junct  +0  -1 Larch Hill
 53.256190   -6.290131  0.114 km  1.7 min   0.7 km   11 min Junct  +0  +0 Mutton Lane
 53.259530   -6.293343  0.427 km  6.4 min   1.2 km   17 min Junct  +0  -1 Mutton Lane
 53.260576   -6.296611  0.258 km  3.9 min   1.4 km   21 min Junct  +0  -2 Tibradden Road (L4027)
 53.261682   -6.297802  0.160 km  2.4 min   1.6 km   24 min Junct  -3  -4 Edmondstown Road (R116)
 53.257534   -6.300464  0.488 km  7.3 min   2.1 km   31 min Junct  +1  -3 Cruagh Lane
 53.255478   -6.303564  0.305 km  4.6 min   2.4 km   35 min Junct  +1  -2 Lamberts Lane
 53.254901   -6.308754  0.349 km  5.2 min   2.7 km   41 min Junct  +1  -2 Old Military Road
 53.251923   -6.318582  0.802 km 12.0 min   3.5 km   53 min Junct  +1  -1 path
 53.252102   -6.318992  0.033 km  0.5 min   3.5 km   53 min Junct  +0  -2 path
 53.252338   -6.320282  0.090 km  1.4 min   3.6 km   55 min Junct  +1  -1 DMW
 53.253172   -6.320981  0.103 km  1.5 min   3.7 km   56 min Junct  -2  -4 Killakee Road (R115)
 53.252107   -6.320708  0.118 km  1.8 min   3.9 km   58 min Junct  +3  -2 service road
 53.252409   -6.321334  0.059 km  0.9 min   3.9 km   59 min Junct  -1  -3 path
 53.252057   -6.321484  0.040 km  0.6 min   4.0 km   59 min Junct  +2  -2 path
 53.252050   -6.323309  0.119 km  1.8 min   4.1 km   61 min Junct  +0  -2 path
 53.252057   -6.328511  0.342 km  5.1 min   4.4 km   66 min Junct  +0  -2 DMW
 53.252012   -6.330374  0.124 km  1.9 min   4.5 km   68 min Waypt  -3  +2 DMW
 53.252057   -6.328511  0.124 km  1.9 min   4.7 km   70 min Junct  +0  +2 path
 53.252050   -6.323309  0.342 km  5.1 min   5.0 km   75 min Junct  +0  +2 path
 53.252057   -6.321484  0.119 km  1.8 min   5.1 km   77 min Junct  -1  +0 path
 53.252409   -6.321334  0.040 km  0.6 min   5.2 km   78 min Junct  +2  +3 service road
 53.252107   -6.320708  0.059 km  0.9 min   5.2 km   78 min Junct  -2  +0 Killakee Road (R115)
 53.253172   -6.320981  0.118 km  1.8 min   5.3 km   80 min Junct  +3  +3 DMW
 53.250937   -6.319037  0.279 km  4.2 min   5.6 km   84 min Junct  +0  +3 DMW (back)
 53.250895   -6.319007  0.005 km  0.1 min   5.6 km   84 min Junct  +0  +3 DMW (back)
 53.248754   -6.314912  0.391 km  5.9 min   6.0 km   90 min Waypt  +4  -3 DMW
 53.248706   -6.314994  0.007 km  0.1 min   6.0 km   90 min Junct  +0  -4 path
 53.248116   -6.314993  0.074 km  1.1 min   6.1 km   92 min Junct  +2  -3 Dublin Mountain Way - Hellfire & Massey spur
 53.247803   -6.315436  0.045 km  0.7 min   6.1 km   92 min Junct  +0  -3 Dublin Mountain Way - Hellfire & Massey spur
 53.245151   -6.315920  0.324 km  4.9 min   6.5 km   97 min Junct  +0  -4 Dublin Mountain Way - Hellfire & Massey spur
 53.242598   -6.317419  0.314 km  4.7 min   6.8 km  102 min Junct  +0  -4 Dublin Mountain Way - Hellfire & Massey spur
 53.239283   -6.314280  0.440 km  6.6 min   7.2 km  108 min Junct  +2  -4 Cruagh Road (L8124)
 53.239178   -6.314238  0.012 km  0.2 min   7.2 km  109 min Junct  +0  +3 Dublin Mountain Way
 53.238553   -6.313467  0.086 km  1.3 min   7.3 km  110 min Junct  +0  +2 Dublin Mountain Way
 53.239989   -6.311904  0.216 km  3.2 min   7.5 km  113 min Junct  +0  +1 track
 53.241114   -6.309669  0.196 km  2.9 min   7.7 km  116 min Junct  -2  -1 track
 53.241202   -6.309843  0.015 km  0.2 min   7.7 km  116 min Waypt  -3  +3 track
 53.241114   -6.309669  0.015 km  0.2 min   7.8 km  116 min Junct  +0  +3 track
 53.241053   -6.297890  0.814 km 12.2 min   8.6 km  129 min Junct  +0  +2 track
 53.242701   -6.295077  0.801 km 12.0 min   9.4 km  141 min Junct  +3  +2 Pine Forest Road (R116)
 53.242680   -6.294758  0.020 km  0.3 min   9.4 km  141 min Junct  -1  +0 track
 53.242818   -6.294789  0.015 km  0.2 min   9.4 km  141 min Waypt  +1  +1 path
 53.243227   -6.293913  0.076 km  1.1 min   9.5 km  142 min Junct  +0  +1 path
 53.243448   -6.293242  0.050 km  0.8 min   9.5 km  143 min Junct  +0  +1 DMW Tibradden Trail
 53.243782   -6.292547  0.059 km  0.9 min   9.6 km  144 min Junct  -1  -1 track
 53.247118   -6.291111  0.417 km  6.3 min  10.0 km  150 min Junct  +0  +1 track
 53.248700   -6.285514  0.471 km  7.1 min  10.5 km  157 min Junct  +0  -1 Tibradden Lane
 53.256190   -6.290131  1.041 km 15.6 min  11.5 km  173 min Junct  +2  +3 Larch Hill
 53.255290   -6.289248  0.114 km  1.7 min  11.6 km  175 min Junct  +0  +3 Larch Hill
 53.252756   -6.285793  0.375 km  5.6 min  12.0 km  180 min Junct  +0  +2 Larch Hill
 53.254024   -6.284129  0.439 km  6.6 min  12.5 km  187 min Waypt   





http://www.barossalight.sa.scouts.com.au/games/compass-games.pdf

Mountain Pursuit Challenge. Hike prep and Route card 
http://www.mpcteam.ie/Docs/handbook.PDF

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_card




Route/Objective: Balally Cubs Larch Hill to Hellfire and back (back via Cruagh wood and Tibradden probably)

Date/Time: Meet 10am Larch Hill













Leg Time of Day Distance Duration Turn/go Bearing Location/Highway Lat Long
1 10:20 0.0 km 0 min START NW Larch Hill 53.254024 -6.284129
2
1.6 km 24 min L SSW Edmondstown Road (R116) (HAIRPIN) 53.261682 -6.297802
3
2.1 km 31 min R SW Cruagh Lane 53.257534 -6.300464
4
2.4 km 35 min R SW Lamberts Lane 53.255478 -6.303564
5
2.7 km 41 min R W Old Military Road (in Massey Woods) 53.254901 -6.308754
6 11:30 3.7 km 56 min L/up road S Killakee Road (R115) 53.253172 -6.320981
7
3.9 km 58 min R W service road - Hellfire car park 53.252107 -6.320708
8 11:45 4.5 km 68 min LUNCH LUNCH DMW Hellfire Club 53.252012 -6.330374
9







10 12:15 4.5 km 68 min START E DMW Hellfire Club

11
5.2 km 78 min L/down rd N Killakee Road (R115) 53.252107 -6.320708
12
5.3 km 80 min R SE DMW into Massey Wood 53.253172 -6.320981
13 13:00 7.2 km 108 min L cross rd S Cruagh Road (L8124) 53.239283 -6.31428
14 13:35 9.4 km 141 min cross road NE Pine Forest Road (R116) 53.242701 -6.295077
15 13:55 10.5 km 157 min L down rd NNW Tibradden Lane 53.2487 -6.285514
16 14:30 12.5 km 187 min FINISH FINISH Finish in Larch Hill 53.254024 -6.284129










Time with some short breaks and time for lunch.
Total Hiking time (not incl. time for breaks)













Escapes/Alternates
7,8 Go up Hellfire on longer but less steep forest tracks.
10,11,12 Go from Hellfire back to Larch hill by the way we came (Down, Through Massey wood, on road by fruit farm Cruagh Lane, Mutton Lane to Larch Hill) 4.5k
13 Go back through Massey wood and then back by way we came


Group Traveling by

Hike/walk




Number in Party

___ leaders, ___ cubs




Emergency Contact







Phone Number of Contact







Address of Contact







Vehicles will be left at

Larch Hill




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